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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Lord Grammaticus (Talk) 13:03, December 5, 2012 watch this whole video.

Your Edits Edit

Dude, I told you before not to use those weird <p sab="525"> style of tags. The content of your edits are fine and can be further discussed in Poison's talk page, but stop messing things up with those <p></p> tags. It might be because you're copy+pasting things from other websites, but just use source mode to review your edits before submitting them. General Awesomo (talk) 22:01, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I haven't been messing with them at all, I never touched them. TheSwedishElf (talk) 22:08, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Then, like he said, it's probably just a result of copypasting something involving your browser or computer; I've had issues with that before, though they just disappear when I edit. Just try using source mode to make your edits and see if that makes any difference. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 01:07, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Poison's article Edit

Referring to trans women as "transsexuals" is neither correct nor okay, and you really need to stop reverting my fixes. Seriously. I'm trans, I know what I'm talking about, and the terminology you're insisting on is unacceptable. 00Davo (talk) 03:08, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it is both. There's nothing offensive or unacceptable about it. She transitioned physically and completely from a male to a female. Full transition to the opposite sex, sex being a physical, biological thing that there's only two of, unlike gender identity, unless you'd like to go ahead and name a third set of genitals that exists, makes her a post-op transsexual woman. Take your preaching back to Tumblr, ffs. TheSwedishElf (talk) 04:09, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

You've no right to tell a trans person whether your description of trans people is offensive. Not only are there absolutely not only two possible sexes, reducing transgender people to "transsexuals" - and as a noun, ffs? - is objectifying, overly sexualising, and places undue weight on a single, genuinely optional surgical operation. Trans women are women regardless of "op" status, and it's both unnecessary and invasive to prioritise that information. 00Davo (talk) 13:45, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

First off, there are countless trans individuals, a number of whom I personally know, who would disagree with you, so you have no right to try and speak for all of them. Second, pretty sure you're confusing sex with gender AND discounting the fact that transgender and transsexual are often two different concepts, and even if you aren't, Poison still fully transitioned from one sex to another, as in biological sex, not gender identity, thus she is indeed transsexual. Third, how in fuck's name is it "objectifying" or "sexualizing"? You're talking like it's a word the porn industry or some creep in his basement came up with. Fourth, for many, it's not optional. For many, it's not enough for them to simply identify and present as best as they can as the opposite of what they were born as, they need to physically BECOME it due to their dysphoria being that bad. Fifth, I never said pre-op trans women aren't women, don't you fucking put words in my mouth. What I am saying, however, is that your feelings on the subject don't dictate how every trans person feels and should have no effect on this wiki either. Judging by how this riveting discussion is going, I'm guessing your next move will be to call me a transphobe or something even though I'm anything but, is that about right? TheSwedishElf (talk) 20:04, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

"trans" isn't from "transition" - the terms have a shared origin, the Latin prefix "trāns" meaning "across", but are distinct concepts. Transitioning is not a necessary aspect of being transgender, although it is highly recommended for most trans people and is the only confirmed remedy for gender dysphoria. Biological sex is an oversimplifying fiction which not only completely fails to encompass the range of possibilities at birth (see: intersex people) but casually invalidates most trans people's genders - it's actively harmful to continue emphasising it over gender. It should be fairly obvious how calling a person a "transsexual" might be "sexualising" - and by using it as a noun, you reduce people to nothing more than the state and history of their genitalia, which is tremendously objectifying. I'm well aware that genital reassignment surgery and transition in general are necessary for many trans people (indeed, I personally absolutely need to transition!), but placing such emphasis on the transition process invalidates trans people who cannot, have not, or do not wish to transition, all of whom are just as trans as those who have undergone transition. Trans women are born as women - our transitioning is not a process of becoming "the opposite of what [we] were born as", but a process of, effectively, transforming from women to cuter women with better self-esteem. Incidentally, speaking as the only trans person in this argument, surely my feelings are more relevant to this matter than yours? 00d4n1 (talk) 03:38, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Wether this means anything or not, Street Fighter producer Yoshinori Ono himself has been quoted as referring to her as a "transsexual".

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